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Fight the good fight??

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 24th August 2014 @ 6:26pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 August - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Once again we are just a day away from the meeting for August. It has been a particularly busy time for me, Rui and I just got married, so I hope you will excuse the fact that there is no booklet this month.

Mind you, with all the horrific and disturbing news constantly flashing across our screens these days, I'm not sure how much we need a booklet on War. As for human nature? Well, we are all human (I assume - aliens please make yourselves known) and so perhaps the best booklet to read is that which we each carry inside ourselves. Have a good read and think about your own experiences of aggression and its consequences.

 
Time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 25 August at 8.00 pm.

The topic for August is:

An end to War?: Can we really imagine with John Lennon a world without war and violence? Or is aggression just part of human nature?


I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded. 

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>


 

What did you do in the war, daddy?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 19th August 2014 @ 11:26am

Hi All,

Monday 25 August - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

I hope you have all been surviving the Festival and enjoying the lively, cosmopolitan atmosphere that always seems to characterise Edinburgh at this time of year. It always seems to me to be a time that expresses the best of Scotland. A welcoming and friendly time for people from many countries and nations whatever their beliefs and background. But is the world always like this?
 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 25 August at 8.00 pm.

Currently remaining the lead topic in the Poll :

An end to War?: Can we really imagine with John Lennon a world without war and violence? Or is aggression just part of human nature?

So, here we are at the 100th anniversary of the World War I. The graphic images of trench warfare, the mass graves of soldiers buried in the mud of Flanders and the impact of a lost generation are all over the news with fields of poppies laid everywhere for remembrance.

One thing we should remember is that WWI was to be the war to end all wars. An experience so horrific that we would never contemplate war again. Yet, a mere eleven years later we found ourselves in World War II. It seems the lessons did not last long.

One hundred years on and, alongside the remembrance of the war to end all wars, our news is filled with Gaza, Syria, Iraq, Central Africa, Ukraine and many more localised conflicts. One really has to ask, have we learned anything in that time?

Wars and conflict, alas, are nothing new and rarely out of the news for long. We can dig up skeletons from thousands of years ago and find evidence of violent death or uncover mass graves associated with more recent episodes. We can even find horrific scenes posted and glorified on social media and the web.

Ask most individuals and they will say that they want an end to war: an end to needless death and images of maimed, orphaned and distraught children. Yet we can find violence and aggression all too often even in our own society. Northern Ireland still smoulders within our own shores and we read regularly about gang violence, football hooliganism resulting in vicious confrontation and, occasionally, terrorism.

John Lennon asked us to Imagine a world without war. A world of Peace and Love. But do such dreams fail to acknowledge something basic about human nature? It seems we turn all too readily to violence in many situations. Despite our tendency to want to blame politicians, international capitalism or vested interests, perhaps the roots of war lie within each of us as individuals. Perhaps we are a violent species and even selected through evolution on that basis. We are not the only animal species that fights to gain or preserve resources, territory or the opportunity to mate.

It has been suggested that ‘society’ and ‘civilisation’ are all that prevent our tendency to violence and aggression being even more widely expressed. Remove these constraints and we see the rule of the mob, riots and murder. We need only look at the news to see examples. Maybe we believe that we could never act like that? How sure can we really be?

As usual, so much to discuss.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>


 

Voting closes late Monday!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 16th August 2014 @ 6:46pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 August - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Somehow the month always seem to flash past. They do say time flies when you are enjoying yourself. Perhaps time perception will be a good topic for the future. In the meantime, we will be closing the voting for the August topic late on Monday.
 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 25 August at 8.00 pm.

Currently remaining the lead topic in the Poll :

An end to War?: Can we really imagine with John Lennon a world without war and violence? Or is aggression just part of human nature?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 18 August.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Supermoon...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 9th August 2014 @ 6:52pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 August - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

According to astronomers, Sunday will see the moon closer to earth than it has been in the last 20 years. For just 26 minutes at around 6.10pm, the moon will reach its full perigee stage, taking it to within 221,765 miles of earth.

Sunday’s supermoon will also coincide with the Perseid meteor shower, a yearly occurrence that will see more than 100 meteors appear in our skies over the weekend. Time to be over the moon?
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 25 August at 8.00 pm.

Currently a new and topical topic leading in the Poll :

An end to War?: Can we really imagine with John Lennon a world without war and violence? Or is aggression just part of human nature?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 18 August.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group October Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 27th October 2014 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: The Links Hotel and Bar, 4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU

    FREE event (with free sandwiches)

    Discussions are…

    • 9 people attended

Festival, Tattoo and Seagulls...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 2nd August 2014 @ 1:24pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 August - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

A very well attended meeting in July with some 33 people taking part in the discussion on Work. But it's that time of year again. Not only are we back to August rain rather than July sun but the Festival has officially launched and the Tattoo fireworks (twice on Saturday) are causing the seagulls to rise in alarm from the roofs of the local tenements and they turn my car white as they flock. So it goes.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 25 August at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Wedded to an ideal?: Does Marriage have any real meaning and purpose in today's society? Are we just idealising outmoded social concepts?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 18 August.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group September Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 22nd September 2014 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: The Links Hotel and Bar, 4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU

    Remember it's the 4th Monday, not the last Monday!!

    FREE…

    • 9 people attended

Making it work...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 27th July 2014 @ 10:13am

Hi All,

Monday 28 July - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

We seem to be reaching the end of the heatwave and returning to more usual Edinburgh weather just in time for the Festival. But good discussions may create a lot of hot air and keep the temperature up, at least in the comfort of the Links Hotel.

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting this Monday 28 July at 8.00 pm.

The topic for July is:

Is work necessary?: With increasing automation will we be able to keep everyone gainfully occupied? A different approach to work and leisure??

As usual, there is a file available, "Work", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded. 


 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

We can work it out...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 22nd July 2014 @ 5:21pm

Hi All,

Monday 28 July - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Once again the Poll shifted in the last few days to produce a winner. Somehow the voting always works!

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 28 July at 8.00 pm.

The topic leading in the Poll is:

Is work necessary?: With increasing automation will we be able to keep everyone gainfully occupied? A different approach to work and leisure??

Work lies at the very centre of our notions of Society and Success. We were no doubt all pleased to hear that unemployment is falling and that younger people in particular are finding it easier to get into the job market. At the same time we can read that there has been a marked increase in part time working, especially among women, and somewhat of an increase in self-employment as our entrepreneurs see the pattern of employment changing from a 'job for life' to a series of opportunities using new and varied skills over a working lifetime that may eventually stretch to 70.

Work has been rather taken for granted. In our earliest days it would simply have been called survival. If you didn't work, hunt and gather, then your time on this earth was even nastier, more brutish and short. In the days of the nomadic hunter, it was a day to day, relentless series of tasks with little respite. If you were too young, too old, too ill or incapacitated to work, you might be cared for by your tribe... for a short period. Otherwise it was down to you to survive through your labours.

Perhaps it was farming that began to change that. Yes, the work could still be hard, dawn to dusk (I've worked on a farm!) but it didn't have to be quite so constant and consistent. There was time for leisure and culture. Work, though still central, was not simply the all-consuming routine of daily existence.

The Industrial Revolution changed things even further. Suddenly you were no longer simply working for a hand to mouth existence, creating and consuming the essentials for yourself. Instead you were as much a part of the machine as the looms and engines of an increasingly mechanised society that distanced you from both the output of your labour and the acquisition of essentials such as food and drink. At the same time work became more defined in its hours and more clearly separated from leisure. But still the connection between work and survival remained strong. Anyone who has read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist will see that live 100 years ago was still characterised by the hard grind of work, mainly manual labour.

Arguably, the Technological Revolution has changed that considerably; at least in the Western world. The number of jobs requiring manual labour has decreased markedly. Even clerical and administrative tasks are being automated more and more. Working hours have decreased, holidays have increased, welfare has replaced much of the 'work or starve' imperative of previous eras.

Indeed many people now see work simply as the, sometimes, necessary evil that is required to fund their leisure. People now see themselves as working to live rather than living to work. As technology improves not only the nature of the work required but even the necessity to work at all may be steadily eroded. In a society with an increasing population yet diminishing work requirements, work itself may become the exception rather than the rule.

Of course this presents many possible challenges. In societies where the distribution of wealth and resources has, to a large extent, been determined by one's ability to earn them through work of some sort, how are we to manage them in future? Doing away with work would not necessarily mean doing away with commerce or capitalism. We might simply buy and sell on the basis of other assets. There might still be an expectation of some input to the general 'social benefit'. Wealth initially distributed evenly would still tend to end up in the hands of the fewer. There would still be those who through incapacity or unwillingness would not be making that social contribution. What might the challenges be? Is work simply a good vehicle for engaging people with Society and determining the allocation of resources? Do we still need it for that reason but perhaps just different work?

And then there is the psychological dimension. For many, work is a determinant of who they are and how they see themselves. Their sense of self and self-esteem may come from the work they do. Work structures their lives and gives meaning and purpose to their daily routine. Loss of work, or retirement, can lead to psychological damage in many cases. People may not always deal well with leisure. Does not having to work mean becoming a couch potato, excesses of self-indulgence, idle hands that may turn to counter-productive activity? Would we see real reductions in physical and mental health? Use it or lose it?

As usual, so much to discuss.

Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet: Centenary Celebration.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Three days left to vote for July...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Friday, 18th July 2014 @ 6:56pm

Hi All,

Monday 28 July - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Despite some ups and downs in the voting over the last week, we have arrived at the same position. Who was it who said "The more things change, the more they stay the same." Or was it "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose."? Hmmm.... this site editor doesn't allow accents. Maybe it thinks we have already left the EU.

Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 28 July at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topics leading in the Poll are:

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

and

Is work necessary?: With increasing automation will we be able to keep everyone gainfully occupied? A different approach to work and leisure??


But it is not too late for that to change! Just three days left to vote!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 21 July.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.


Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet: Centenary Celebration.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Work in the holiday season...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Monday, 14th July 2014 @ 3:56pm

Hi All,

Monday 28 July - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

The voting system has been at work and, once again, we currently have two potential topics tied in the lead. It is interesting that they are both to do with work, one way or another. You might think that in the holiday season people would be preferring to forget work related issues. Or, to paraphrase one of the topics, a man may work from sun to sun, but a woman's work is never done.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 28 July at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topics leading in the Poll are:

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

and

Is work necessary?: With increasing automation will we be able to keep everyone gainfully occupied? A different approach to work and leisure??


But it is not too late for that to change! The site still seems to be working normally so:

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 21 July.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.


Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet: Centenary Celebration.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Well, that's Independence then...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 6th July 2014 @ 12:38pm

Hi All,

Monday 28 July - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Did the headline grab you? But of course I was meaning American Independence Day. Around here we must have some US citizens as there were fireworks and celebrations. I can't understand what all the fuss is about. I never liked tea either but chucking it all overboard seems a strange way to promote Nescafe.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 28 July at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Forgive and Forget?: How do we deal with memories of past wrongs? Are we able to move on or not? What is the role of forgiveness?

But it is not too late for that to change! The site still seems to be working normally so:

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 21 July.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.


Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet:  Centenary Celebration .
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

Sunshine on Leith (and the rest of Edinburgh)

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Monday, 30th June 2014 @ 8:38am

Hi All,

Monday 28 July - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

The start of another month just hours away and it will be a busy time for Edinburgh. Already we have some festivals in full swing with more to come. Perhaps we should have a Festival of Philosophy and Psychology? An idea for the future.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 28 July at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Forgive and Forget?: How do we deal with memories of past wrongs? Are we able to move on or not? What is the role of forgiveness?

But it is not too late for that to change! The site still seems to be working normally so:

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 21 July.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.


Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet:  Centenary Celebration .
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

Do we pay a price for protection?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 22nd June 2014 @ 3:33pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 June - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Midsummer solstice passed and we are now back on our way to Winter. Not a time to be too pessimistic though with loads of excitement in the months to come for Scotland. Not least of which will be our monthly meetings.
 
Anyway, it is time to be thinking ahead to our meeting tomorrow, 23 June at 8.00 pm.

The topic for June is:

My brother's keeper?: Are we so concerned with protecting people from risks and consequences that we make them more dependent?

As usual, there is a file available, "Overprotection", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded. 


 
Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet:  Centenary Celebration .
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

A nanny state?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Wednesday, 18th June 2014 @ 12:37am

Hi All,

Monday 23 June - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

That's the way the voting goes. All month one topic in the lead and then, at the last minute, a flurry of voting changes the picture. So it was this month with the winning topic putting on a last spurt to win by one vote.
 
Anyway, it is time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 23 June at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic still leading in the Poll is:

My brother's keeper?: Are we so concerned with protecting people from risks and consequences that we make them more dependent?

What responsibility do we have to protect people from their own risky choices and behaviours?

With children we take a fairly clear view that it is necessary always to look out for their protection as they may be unable to make choices for themselves or fail to understand the risks they run. Everyone tends to feel the distress when some accident or malicious act results in injury or death for a child. We ask the question, "What could have been done to protect them?" and rightly so. However there is equally a view that overprotecting children may not only lead to extreme restrictions on their ability to experience the huge variety of opportunities that life offers but may also prevent or impede the development of self reliance and the ability to assess risk for themselves. In short, it has been argued that overprotection may actually increase risk in some ways.

Remembering my childhood, we were encouraged to have much more unsupervised freedom than many children enjoy today. Yes, there were occasional tragedies but were there more then than there are now? Are we simply more risk averse?

While risk to children tends to produce a degree of consensus that there is a duty of protection, the situation is less clear when dealing with adults. There are the obvious risks such as extreme sports. The sorts of things where we read of rescue teams being called out at great trouble, expense, and sometimes risks to themselves, to aid people who should perhaps not have been taking risks in the first place. Ben Nevis in trainers, shorts and a t-shirt is not advisable at any time of year. Yet we also applaud those who undertake risky ventures: rowing across the Atlantic, climbing in the Himalayas or sky diving for example. Often very risky but we tend to assume that is a freedom to which adults have a right: even if the consequences turn out to be dire for the individual and costly for others. Or should we limit such endeavours where the risk is considered too high?

What about some of the more mundane risks? Risks to health for example? There are the obvious candidates such as smoking that have been targeted by legislation on the basis that people have to be protected from their own unhealthy choices. The same is being said about alcohol consumption and we are seeing developments around healthy eating and obesity, both in children and adults, that are increasingly aiming to control diet and food content. The argument is not just the potential for individual damage but the longer term cost to society in health care and dependency. Do we have the right to limit here in ways we don't for other risks?

And are we at risk of fostering dependency? Do people come to assume that it is the State's responsibility to make safe and healthy choices for them rather than accept a personal responsibility? Do they assume that liability always lies elsewhere, and often sue on that basis, rather than take greater care themselves? Yet, at the same time, there is a resentment of the 'nanny state' that is always trying to tell us what is good for us rather than allow us to make our own choices. Is that also a freedom to make our own mistakes and take the consequences?

A difficult balance and we may question whether we are getting it right or simply ensuring that people will become ever more dependent in the future.

As usual, so much to discuss.

 
Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet:  Centenary Celebration .
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

Just 3 days to vote for June

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 14th June 2014 @ 4:17pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 June - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Once again it's up to you to get your thinking caps on and help decide the topic for June. There has been some lively voting already but experience dictates that nothing is certain until the Poll closes. A bit like another round of voting due to take place later this year perhaps. 
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 23 June at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic still leading in the Poll is:

Forgive and Forget?: How do we deal with memories of past wrongs? Are we able to move on or not? What is the role of forgiveness?

But it is not too late for that to change! The site still seems to be working normally so:

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 16 June.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet:  Centenary Celebration .
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

Midsummer Night's Dream

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Friday, 6th June 2014 @ 11:15pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 June - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

It seems hardly any time at all since we were celebrating Mid Winter and here we are looking to a meeting at Mid Summer. Still a few things to happen in between though, including looking forward to the Meadow's Festival this weekend. 
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 23 June at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Forgive and Forget?: How do we deal with memories of past wrongs? Are we able to move on or not? What is the role of forgiveness?

But it is not too late for that to change! The site still seems to be working normally so:

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 16 June.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

Notice!

Another upcoming event notified by a member will be the CG Jung Seminars Scotland Centenary Celebration on 26 July. Entitled "Honouring the Master" it will be held in St. John’s Episcopal Church, Princes Street Edinburgh. There is a cost of £35.

You can download more details in their programme booklet:  Centenary Celebration .
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group August Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 25th August 2014 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: The Links Hotel and Bar, 4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU

    FREE event (with free sandwiches)

    Discussions are…

    • 9 people attended

Sunshine on Leith (and the rest of Edinburgh)

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 31st May 2014 @ 2:15pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 June - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

It's amazing but we seem to be enjoying a spell of rather good weather. I often tell visitors that the end of May and beginning of June can be the best time to enjoy the outdoors in Scotland. But I still tell them to bring waterproofs and a warm jersey. Well, I am a Scotsman after all and never trust the weather.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 23 June at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Dealing with Uncertainty: What do you do when you don't know the answers? Faith, myths, conspiracies or avoid the questions?

But it is not too late for that to change! The site still seems to be working normally so:

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 16 June.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:

Looking in the mirror.

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 25th May 2014 @ 7:21am

Hi All,

Monday 26 May - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

It's that time again. A month has flown by and we are almost ready to meet and discuss once again. So, time to be thinking about our May meeting tomorrow on Monday 26 May at 8.00 pm.

The May topic in the Poll is:

Know thyself?: How well do we REALLY understand ourselves? What do others see in us that we don't? Do we distort our own view?

As usual, there is a file available, "Know Thyself", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded. 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:


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