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Tis the season to be jolly...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Monday, 1st December 2014 @ 10:42pm

Hi All,

Monday 22 December - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


It is somehow bizarrely interesting that the Season of Goodwill has largely been signalled by shoppers fighting over bargains on Black Friday. Then, of course, we had Cyber Monday and next Monday is considered to be Manic Monday, when people rush to do last minute Christmas shopping. Still, there will be a chance for a touch of sanity and philosophical reflection on the Monday before Christmas Day.
  
Yes, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 22 December at 8.00 pm.

Currently the, somewhat relevant, topic leading in the Poll is:

Little lies: Is it OK to deceive children with tales of Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or Dragons? Are we teaching that Truth does not matter?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 16 December.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

When PC is not your desktop...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 22nd November 2014 @ 2:49pm

Hi All,

Monday 24 November - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


It's that time! Once again an opportunity to share your views (and learn from others) on a controversial and current issue. Your chance to get to work on the November topic. 
  
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 24 November at 8.00 pm.

The topic that led in the Poll is:

Political Correctness: Are we too concerned with avoiding giving offence? Do we end up trying to please everyone and pleasing no-one?

As usual, there is a file available, "Political Correctness", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded.

 

New suggestions welcome!.

Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Politically Correct?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Wednesday, 19th November 2014 @ 2:08pm

Hi All,

Monday 24 November - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Once again the members have spoken and, after an intense flurry of last minute voting, we have a topic first past the winning post.
  
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 24 November at 8.00 pm.

The topic that led in the Poll is:

Political Correctness: Are we too concerned with avoiding giving offence? Do we end up trying to please everyone and pleasing no-one?

Cleary giving offense through thoughtless use of language or inappropriate behaviour is both undesirable and unacceptable. Even more so when words or actions become stigmatising or discriminatory. In recent years we have learned how powerful language can be and how even casual and traditional assumptions or acts can cause deep pain, antagonism and resentment.

The result has been a movement to recognise and value the opinions, needs and situations of those we deal with or refer to in order to enhance equality and fairness and avoid offense. This seems entirely laudable. Sectarianism, sexism and discrimination, for example, become not just an offense but an offence.

However, there are questions that can be raised. Is it actually possible to please all of the people all of the time? What happens when opinions, needs and situations are mutually incompatible among those affected? Do we find ourselves constantly treading on eggshells only to find them cracking beneath our every step?

Certainly there have been many instances highlighted where it has been suggested that Political Correctness has 'gone mad'. Children not allowed to play competitive sports lest some be labelled as 'losers'. The change in the description of some examination grades to avoid the use of 'fail'. The suggestions that traditional festivities should be refocused or even renamed - Christmas becoming the Winter Festival with a ban on Nativity plays? An end to men opening doors or giving up their seats for women lest it be seen as sexist. No more Scotsman, Englishman and Irishman jokes. The list goes on and the press love it! This month’s booklet will have a number of issues from Edinburgh alone.

It sometimes seems as though 'the powerful majority', whatever that is, is seen to be required to bend to avoid offense at all costs to those in a disempowered minority. It often appears that the only people it is safe to offend are white, middle-class, straight men. (OK, I apologise for such a politically incorrect observation - but that's what my female divorce lawyer said.)

Also, it may sometimes not only be appropriate but even desirable to offend. We may challenge the customs of some groups in areas like Female Genital Mutilation (but accept circumcision?), honour killings or homicidal tribal exorcisms. We may find unacceptable the behaviours of some extreme religious groups or cults and believe we are politically correct to oppose them regardless of offense - but where are the dividing lines? It sometimes seems that being PC prevents us speaking out against those who may offend us as has been suggested in some recent cases where authorities have failed to act on concerns lest they appear racist.

Perhaps, rather than political correctness, we need greater awareness, understanding and tolerance. As Thomas Jefferson is reputed to have said, "The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance." Political correctness does not provide a single, easy answer.

As usual, so much to discuss.

 

New suggestions welcome!.

Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

24 hours to vote...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 16th November 2014 @ 6:00pm

Hi All,

Monday 24 November - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


The tension may be a bit less than in the Independence referendum but nonetheless there is an important decision to be made. Just 24 hours left to vote in the November topic Poll!
  
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 24 November at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Political Correctness: Are we too concerned with avoiding giving offence? Do we end up trying to please everyone and pleasing no-one?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 17 November.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Going like a rocket...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 9th November 2014 @ 10:41pm

Hi All,

Monday 24 November - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Maybe my memory just recalls them as more awe inspiring, but somehow the range of fireworks in use this year seemed like a bit of a damp squib. Of course that's probably good for pets, small children and the general peace of the neighbourhood but I confess I miss some of the displays of the past. That is, apart from one friend who celebrated in traditional style with a party for a whole group of children and parents where the fireworks went like a rocket. There's one called the Octopus for example...
  
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 24 November at 8.00 pm.

Currently two topics leading in the Poll:

Political Correctness: Are we too concerned with avoiding giving offence? Do we end up trying to please everyone and pleasing no-one?

and

Private Education: Does this have a place in society? Privileged? Elitist? Better? Offering extra or depriving a comprehensive system??


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 17 November.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Fireworks ahead...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Monday, 3rd November 2014 @ 1:25pm

Hi All,

Monday 24 November - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


It's that time of year when the peace and quiet (do we ever really get any) is shattered by the reminiscences of dear old Guy Fawkes. Now if he had been around when we were having the independence referendum things might have been even more lively. On the other hand, I don't suppose he ever thought of blowing up Holyrood.
  
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 24 November at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Political Correctness: Are we too concerned with avoiding giving offence? Do we end up trying to please everyone and pleasing no-one?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 17 November.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Just a little housekeeping...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 25th October 2014 @ 2:32pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


It's that time! Dust off the brain cells and get your gender quality hats on. Your chance to get to work on the October topic. 
 
Time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 27 October at 8.00 pm.

The topic is:

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

As usual, there is a file available, "Womens Work", that you can download for some interesting information. Also an extra document I just couldn't resist when I read some recent research at "Womens Work EXTRA". Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded. 

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

It's my job...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 21st October 2014 @ 7:10pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Once again the members have made their choice and we have a leading topic to get our heads round this month. I can see this being a tricky one!
 
So, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 27 October at 8.00 pm.

The topic that lead in the Poll is:

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

"A man may work from sun to sun but a woman's work is never done!"

So runs the old saying but, in this enlightened age, does it still make sense to think of men and women having differing work roles? Certainly history tells us that work roles were very different in the past. There were clear restrictions on what it was considered 'acceptable' for women to do. Many jobs and careers were closed to them, let alone issues like suffrage. Equally many tasks were seen as being beneath the dignity of men and were described, disparagingly, as 'women's work'.

It is perhaps appropriate that we are commemorating the centenary of WWI as that marked a point at which some radical changes began to occur. Men were in short supply at home and required in the trenches of Flanders. Many jobs that had previously been seen as 'male' came to be held by women. The 'home front' would have been unsustainable with out their efforts in a whole range of 'male' professions. Of course many women had to relinquish these jobs when the men came home from war and took up their previous trades.

But the message was clear. There seemed no good reason why women could not do any job they wished to turn their hand to.

Nonetheless, the notion that men and women should be treated differently has remained persistent. Even recently we have seen the debate about whether female soldiers should serve on the front line, for example. There are still notions, however poorly defined or justified, that some jobs are more suited to women and some to men. This is strongly evidenced in the gender imbalance that can be found in many careers: from fewer women in engineering to fewer men in nursing. Indeed in my own profession, clinical psychology, we see 70-80% of female applicants and this is reflected in service provision.

There are many issues here: stereotyping, salaries, opportunity, education, etc. We might believe the ideal would be a 50-50 distribution in most areas but it does not seem that we are headed in that direction. Some suggest there may be inherent differences that make women and men more suited or more likely to choose certain kinds of work over others. Is that true or just conditioning?

And are 'modern' men any more likely to accept some of the duties that were traditionally seen as female? Or is avoiding housework, bringing up the kids and the role of homemaker because they feel less suited... or just lazy? (I can see this session is going to be FUN! I'm definitely wearing my flak jacket!)

As usual, so much to discuss.


 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Three days left to vote...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 21st October 2014 @ 7:09pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Once again the members have made their choice and we have a leading topic to get our heads round this month. I can see this being a tricky one!
 
So, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 27 October at 8.00 pm.

The topic that lead in the Poll is:

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

"A man may work from sun to sun but a woman's work is never done!"

So runs the old saying but, in this enlightened age, does it still make sense to think of men and women having differing work roles? Certainly history tells us that work roles were very different in the past. There were clear restrictions on what it was considered 'acceptable' for women to do. Many jobs and careers were closed to them, let alone issues like suffrage. Equally many tasks were seen as being beneath the dignity of men and were described, disparagingly, as 'women's work'.

It is perhaps appropriate that we are commemorating the centenary of WWI as that marked a point at which some radical changes began to occur. Men were in short supply at home and required in the trenches of Flanders. Many jobs that had previously been seen as 'male' came to be held by women. The 'home front' would have been unsustainable with out their efforts in a whole range of 'male' professions. Of course many women had to relinquish these jobs when the men came home from war and took up their previous trades.

But the message was clear. There seemed no good reason why women could not do any job they wished to turn their hand to.

Nonetheless, the notion that men and women should be treated differently has remained persistent. Even recently we have seen the debate about whether female soldiers should serve on the front line, for example. There are still notions, however poorly defined or justified, that some jobs are more suited to women and some to men. This is strongly evidenced in the gender imbalance that can be found in many careers: from fewer women in engineering to fewer men in nursing. Indeed in my own profession, clinical psychology, we see 70-80% of female applicants and this is reflected in service provision.

There are many issues here: stereotyping, salaries, opportunity, education, etc. We might believe the ideal would be a 50-50 distribution in most areas but it does not seem that we are headed in that direction. Some suggest there may be inherent differences that make women and men more suited or more likely to choose certain kinds of work over others. Is that true or just conditioning?

And are 'modern' men any more likely to accept some of the duties that were traditionally seen as female? Or is avoiding housework, bringing up the kids and the role of homemaker because they feel less suited... or just lazy? (I can see this session is going to be FUN! I'm definitely wearing my flak jacket!)

As usual, so much to discuss.


 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group December Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 22nd December 2014 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: The Links Hotel and Bar, 4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU

    FREE event (with free sandwiches)

    Discussions are…

    • 6 people attended

Three days left to vote...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 18th October 2014 @ 12:17pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


The Voting has been fluctuating as usual and we have a new leader at this point. Of course we often see a flurry of Voting just before the Poll closes late on Monday, so the final outcome is still very much up for grabs. That means your Vote counts and could be the one that decides the October topic.
 
So, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 27 October at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 October.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Creepy Virginia...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 11th October 2014 @ 7:49pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


The leaves on the Virginia creeper that decorates the windows of my first floor flat have turned bright red and begun to die for another year. That makes it time to trim back or else it would totally take over next year and I would be able to see nothing. Fortunately some growing things don't need cut back. The Group is growing closer and closer to 200 members and I see no incentive to trim that at all.
 
So, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 27 October at 8.00 pm.

Currently there are two topics leading in the Poll:

Private Education: Does this have a place in society? Privileged? Elitist? Better? Offering extra or depriving a comprehensive system?

and

Women's work!: Many career areas seem to have significant gender imbalances. What causes them? Are there women's or men's jobs?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 October.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Have you voted yet?...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 5th October 2014 @ 9:33am

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Lots of ideas being floated by members for future topics I'm glad to see. Rest assured they will all feature sooner or later in the monthly Poll. Right now, however, it is your chance to Vote for the October topic.
 
So, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 27 October at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is still:

Private Education: Does this have a place in society? Privileged? Elitist? Better? Offering extra or depriving a comprehensive system?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 October.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

A problem solved...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 27th September 2014 @ 5:02pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 October - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


A bit of disruption at the last meeting where we had to move from our usual room but members coped well and the discussion was no less lively. I'm pleased to say that the hotel have agreed that they will make the larger dining area available to us again in future. So a chance to practice the Forgiveness we were discussing on that occasion.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 27 October at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Private Education: Does this have a place in society? Privileged? Elitist? Better? Offering extra or depriving a comprehensive system?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 October.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group November Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 24th November 2014 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: The Links Hotel and Bar, 4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU

    FREE event (with free sandwiches)

    Discussions are…

    • 9 people attended

One debate settled... one to go...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Friday, 19th September 2014 @ 2:14pm

Hi All,

Monday 22 September - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Remember we meet on the 4th Monday: not always the LAST Monday.


After what has been a bit of a nail biting time, we now know the answer to one great debate. Perhaps, as we pull together again as a Scottish nation within the UK, this month's topic is appropriate to the spirit of reconciliation. Mind you, I very much doubt that we will achieve such a clear decision in our discussions.
 
Anyway, it is time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 22 September at 8.00 pm.

The topic finally leading in the Poll is:

Forgive and Forget?: How do we deal with memories of past wrongs? Are we able to move on or not? What is the role of forgiveness??

As usual, there is a file available, "Forgiveness", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Coffee Lounge, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded. 

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Forgive this message...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 16th September 2014 @ 2:23pm

Hi All,

Monday 22 September - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Remember we meet on the 4th Monday: not always the LAST Monday.


I sometimes think you all wait until the very last minute to vote for a topic as the Poll often seems to have a flurry of activity in the last day. So it was this time and the battle between leading topics swayed with the hour.
 
Anyway, it is time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 22 September at 8.00 pm.

The topic finally leading in the Poll is:

Forgive and Forget?: How do we deal with memories of past wrongs? Are we able to move on or not? What is the role of forgiveness??

Forgiveness is a topic that, perhaps, does not receive the recognition it deserves. Whether on a personal or international level, it seems we are all too ready to recall past wrongs and grievances and the call is more often for revenge and retribution than forgiveness and reconciliation.

In some cases feuds continue for decades, if not centuries, even when the origins become a bit hazy in the mists of time. The sins of the fathers (and great grandfathers) certainly often do seem to condemn the generations that follow them to an unending conflict that, ultimately, serves little purpose.

In some cultures it is almost an industry. Institutionalised hatred blossoms beyond family feuds to regional, national and international aggression. In my younger days, it was still the case that many MacDonalds would refuse to talk to Campbells because of the massacre at Glencoe some 270 years previously. What role has the perception of Scotland's historical conflicts with England played in the Independence debate?

And on a more personal level, how often do we still find ourselves consumed with anger and indignation on the basis of our past mistreatment by family, friends, lovers, employers or even society? There is often a smouldering ember within that is all too ready to burst into flames of anger when dealing with those we feel have wronged us. An anger that can obscure our ability to see clearly, to move on from the past and create a better future.

Whatever the fuel for that flame, sometimes what it consumes is ourselves. It has been said that forgiveness does not so much free the wrongdoer but frees ourselves from the prison of our own negativity. Each of us can probably find examples in our own lives where there was a sense of relief when we could put the pain and sense of devastation behind and begin to move on. If you are always looking backwards then the past is all you see.

But how easy is it to forgive? Are some things unforgiveable? And is forgiving the same as forgetting? Is forgiveness a sign that we have weakened and failed to exact just recompense or a sign of strength that we have realised we are neither defined nor dominated by the past? Is there a process that enables us to adjust and forgive or should we always seek an eye for an eye?

As usual, so much to discuss.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Two important votes!!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 14th September 2014 @ 9:26pm

Hi All,

Monday 22 September - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Remember we meet on the 4th Monday: not always the LAST Monday.


I'm sure I don't have to remind anyone about the Independence vote on Thursday but do remember the important Poll that closes late on Monday. Of course that is the Poll that will decide the discussion topic for September and, while less historical, is nonetheless important.
 
Anyway, it is time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 22 September at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Dealing with Uncertainty: What do you do when you don't know the answers? Faith, myths, conspiracies or avoid the questions?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 15 September.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Slipping into Autumn...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 7th September 2014 @ 12:20pm

Hi All,

Monday 22 September - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Remember we meet on the 4th Monday: not always the LAST Monday.


It is September and Edinburgh changes. Gone are the hectic Festival revellers and all the trappings of international tourism take a back seat - for a while. Roll on Hogmanay, or is that still just too far away? Nonetheless we do have a new influx. The start of the University year brings a different, but no less cosmopolitan, mix to the capital city. Perhaps we shall see some of them join in our discussions. 
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 22 September at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Dealing with Uncertainty: What do you do when you don't know the answers? Faith, myths, conspiracies or avoid the questions?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 15 September.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Slipping away from Summer...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 31st August 2014 @ 3:59pm

Hi All,

Monday 22 September - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  

Remember we meet on the 4th Monday: not always the LAST Monday.


It has been a hectic time this summer with weddings and Festivals as well as all the usual things that seem to keep me busy in what was supposed to be a quiet retirement. Mind you, I'm not sure I'd want it too quiet. It was a relief, however, to find that our August debate on War managed to end peacefully with no casualties.
 
Anyway, it is already time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on 22 September at 8.00 pm.

Currently the topic leading in the Poll is:

Good to know you?: What makes for good relationships? Are the rules the same in romantic, family, friendship and colleague relationships?

But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 15 September.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>


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