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E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Wednesday, 23rd September 2015 @ 1:04pm

Hi All,

Monday 26 October - 7.30 for 8.00 pm
Southside Social Bar
(formerly Moo Bar; Meadow Bar)
42-44 Buccleuch St., Edinburgh, EH8 9LP
Tel: 0131 662 0974

Get map HERE

Attending?
  


Just over a month to go until we resume the Group meetings. Membership has continued to climb during the break and we now have over 200 nominal members receiving this newsletter. 

I'm looking forward to developing our relationship with our new venue. As the old Meadow Bar, close to Edinburgh University and the Meadows, it had become a bit run down. However it has undergone a refurbishment and rebirth as a 'social enterprise bar'.

It provides a training and workplace experience for young people in the hospitality industry while returning much of its profit to support other worthy social ventures. 

So the drinks you buy will do more than just wet your throats for the discussion, they will make a social contribution too. They also serve food and, as usual, I have been negotiating the provision of some snacks.

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 26 October at 7.30 for an 8.00 pm start

Good to see you have been Voting in the new Poll. Current leading topic is:

The Meaning of Life: Does Life have a meaning at all or is existence a meaningless accident. Or do we give Life meaning and, if so, what?

Of course that could still change over the next four weeks so all the more reason for you to get Voting and making Suggestions for the future.

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 19 October.


NOTICES!

Upcoming Ragged meetings:

24th September in the Counting House: Ragged University: ‘Evolving for Girls’ plus ‘Power, People and Process; How We Make Decisions About What We Want For The City 

26th September in Central Library: IT and Biscuits 

27th September in Serenity Cafe: Film (This Film Is Not Yet Rated) and Curry Night

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group December Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 28th December 2015 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: Southside Social Bar, 42-44 Buccleuch St., EH8 9LP

    The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group will be holding its…

    • 4 people attended

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group November Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 23rd November 2015 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: Southside Social Bar, 42-44 Buccleuch St., EH8 9LP

    The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group will be holding…

    • 5 people attended

We're Back! New venue for October.

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Wednesday, 16th September 2015 @ 2:11am

Hi All,

Monday 26 October - 7.30 for 8.00 pm
Southside Social Bar
(formerly Moo Bar; Meadow Bar)
42-44 Buccleuch St., Edinburgh, EH8 9LP
Tel: 0131 662 0974

Get map HERE

Attending?
  


A longer break than expected due to various factors in arranging our new venue but we are back! Many of you will know the old Meadow Bar close to Edinburgh University and the Meadows. Over the years it had become a bit run down but it has undergone a refurbishment and rebirth as a 'social enterprise bar'.

It now has a distinctively community aspect and an outlook that ties in well with the ethos of our group. It provides a training and workplace experience for young people in the hospitality industry while returning much of its profit to support other worthy social ventures. 

It received much positive attention when it launched in August and served as a Finge venue. You can read about it HERE.

So the drinks you buy will do more than just wet your throats for the discussion, they will make a social contribution too. They also serve food and, as usual, I have been negotiating the provision of some snacks.

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 26 October at 8.00 pm.

A new start means a new Poll, although a small number of topics have carried over. Too few votes have been cast yet to suggest a leader but all the more reason for you to get Voting and making Suggestions for the future.

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 19 October.


NOTICES!

Upcoming Ragged meetings:

24th September in the Counting House: Ragged University: ‘Evolving for Girls’ plus ‘Power, People and Process; How We Make Decisions About What We Want For The City 

26th September in Central Library: IT and Biscuits 

27th September in Serenity Cafe: Film (This Film Is Not Yet Rated) and Curry Night

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


C G Jung Scotland
19 September 2005

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Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group October Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 26th October 2015 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: Southside Social Bar, 42-44 Buccleuch St., EH8 9LP

    The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group will be holding its October meeting at the…

    • 7 people attended

Happy Solstice!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 21st June 2015 @ 11:14pm

Hi All,

Normally I'd be writing to you now to remind you of the June meeting. However, as you know, we are having a short break while we move venues.

As has been noted before, the venue is likely to be the Meadow Bar in Buccleuch Street, close to the University library at the east end of the Meadows. It seems that we are most likely to get access in September with a slight possibility of August. I will keep you informed.

In the meantime you can get your thinking caps on about potential topics. Normally unsuccessful topics carry over in the poll unless they have been really unpopular but, given the gap, this is an opportunity for a full scale review of the normal list of 12 options. So do come up with some interesting ideas for when we meet again.

To make a Suggestion the link below. 
 


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

25th June Ragged University: ‘Carbon Conscious Adventures’ plus ‘Genghis Khan’ - two talks and some food (youre welcome to bring an item of food for the table)...(Free no need to book)

http://www.ragged-online.com/event/ragged-university-carbon-conscious-adventures/?instance_id=47627

28th June Ragged University: Film (Food Inc) and Curry Night - come along for a fine vege curry, put your feet up, watch a film and then we discuss what we watched....(Free no need to book)

http://www.ragged-online.com/event/ragged-university-film-and-curry-night-3/?instance_id=46904

29th June Ragged University: Development With Dignity and The Limits of Growth; a talk and discussion by Shahid Khan.....(Free no need to book)

http://www.ragged-online.com/event/ragged-university-development-with-dignity-and-the-limits-of-growth-by-shahid-khan/


Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Are all topics equally interesting?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 24th May 2015 @ 1:46am

Hi All,

Monday 25 May - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


As Shakespeare had Macbeth say: "Come what come may, Time and the hour runs through the roughest day." Actually the weather hasn't been too bad for a change and the sunshine in the Meadows was most welcome today with the sunbathers out in force.

Some news on a potential future venue. We are currently in discussion with the Meadow Bar which is coming under the stewardship of George Fyvie who has welcomed the Ragged University to the Counting House in the past. Arrangements are not yet finalised and it is possible we will still have a break for a couple of months over the summer - but we'll be back. More news as it develops. 

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 25 May at 8.00 pm.

The topic for May is:

Equality and Diversity: Can we have both? What is Equality? Does it mean treating everyone the same? What about Individual Differences?


As usual, there is a file available, "Equality", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Dining Area, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded.



NOTICES!

Next meeting is Thursday 28 May at the Counting House with talks on Littoral Art and Education for Sustainability.

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Are some more equal than others?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 19th May 2015 @ 11:50pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 May - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


No last minute change in the voting and so, with a 60% popularity, we have another fascinating and potentially controversial topic to discuss.
  
 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 25 May at 8.00 pm.

The topic for May is:

Equality and Diversity: Can we have both? What is Equality? Does it mean treating everyone the same? What about Individual Differences?


Equality and Diversity often seems like voting for Motherhood and Apple Pie. They are touted as the basis for our beliefs in Human Rights and the foundations of our modern, Western, civilization. Who would not want to live in a society that promoted Equality and encouraged Diversity? But there are some tricky issues that we may have to address.

For example, what do we mean by Equality? Often it is simply assumed to mean that we treat everyone the same. But that flies in the face of all Psychology tells us about the importance of Individual Differences. Clearly we are not all the same and to treat us as such would inevitably disadvantage many and trample on our individual freedoms, choices and needs.

So perhaps it is Equality of Opportunity? But opportunity for what? If we take Higher Education as a current example, it has been assumed that equality should mean that everyone should have the opportunity to access it. Sounds good, but perhaps it then ignores the fact that some people are unsuited to academic study and, even worse, turns the education system into a sausage factory whose job is to produce ever more University entrants.

In fact, in almost any field, there is a distribution of ability. Whether we look at controversies around Intelligence or even Athletic Prowess, we see that people are not equal. Indeed we often encourage and applaud competition that emphasises the inequalities. Of course some say that we should end that by discouraging competitive sports or exams in schools. There should be no losers, but no winners either.

And that brings us to Diversity. Surely if we wish to encourage Diversity, that is almost the opposite of Equality. We are encouraging people to celebrate and value their differences. In fact we have to accept that people will require to be treated differently on the basis of their individual needs, desires and beliefs. So, while treating everyone the same, we still have to make allowances for their wish to be treated differently. As long as their differences are considered acceptable? No one is currently suggesting we accept the diversity of paedophilia for example and, indeed, even frown on those cultures that have lower legal ages for marriage and sexual relationships. And FGM is a diversity too far as well.

That's just our views on Diversity. Perhaps a very Western view that is increasingly challenged by fundamentalist political and religious views elsewhere. Some are highly intolerant of Diversity - maybe we are too in some areas but simply accept that as our definition of 'Normality'. Even that is uneasy. Gay marriage, abortion, gay clergy, Scottish Independence ...

But, say those who advocate Equality and Diversity, what we really mean is that people have equal value, regardless of their situation or beliefs. Let's tackle inequalities we can manage, like poverty (but only our local poverty or else we would have to give up or iPads and smartphones to finance the third world). And everyone has a life of equal value (except migrants dying as they flee political turmoil, famine or poverty). We should steal from the rich and give to the poor (by which we mean that those richer than us should give us their money: not that in the UK the average wage puts people in the top 10% world-wide). Then some criminals deserve to have their rights, or even lives, taken away. And, while welcoming cultural and religious Diversity, we don't want it to threaten our own culture or way of life: stand up for British values.

OK, there are certainly the key areas we should be tackling as far as we can.  Age, Disability, Gender reassignment, Marriage and civil partnership, Pregnancy & maternity, Race, Religion and/or belief, Sex, Sexual orientation: these are all covered by the Equality Act of 2010. But are they just the easier bits that it is comfortable to address and do we really have answers to the more fundamental questions? Can we REALLY have both Equality and Diversity and, if so, how?

As usual, so much to discuss.

NOTICES!

Next meeting is Thursday 28 May at the Counting House with talks on Littoral Art and Education for Sustainability.

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

While elections are still in your mind - vote Now!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 17th May 2015 @ 12:22pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 May - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Once again we are approaching that crucial electoral point where you, the members, choose the topic for the May meeting. Just two days to go, but often the Poll changes dramatically in that time. So if your favourite topic isn't leading right now, get your vote in.
 
 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 25 May at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is:

Equality and Diversity: Can we have both? What is Equality? Does it mean treating everyone the same? What about Individual Differences?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 18 May.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

Next meeting is Thursday 28 May at the Counting House with talks on Littoral Art and Education for Sustainability.

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Your voting isn't over yet - opinions wanted!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 10th May 2015 @ 11:55am

Hi All,

Monday 25 May - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Well, that's one election over for better or worse, depending on your political affiliations. But, perhaps, the important choice you have to make is the topic for May. As usual, there are 12 topics you choose from and your vote is important in deciding what we will be talking about.
 
 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 25 May at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is:

Superstitious behaviour: Touch wood, horoscopes, black cats, tarot, lucky mascots - why are they so popular? Should we believe in them?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 18 May.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

Next meeting is Thursday 28 May at the Counting House with talks on Littoral Art and Education for Sustainability.

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


C G Jung Scotland May Meeting



 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Good news for May and hopeful news!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Wednesday, 29th April 2015 @ 3:11pm

Hi All,

Monday 25 May - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Those of you at the meeting on Monday will have heard that, as a result of changes at the Links Hotel, The April meeting was to be our last at that venue. However the manager has indicated he is able to accommodate our May meeting and so we will have one further get together at the Links.

At the same time, members have been looking into other possibilities beyond May and, I'm pleased to say, we have at least one strong possibility. More news to come but keep your fingers crossed!! 

 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 25 May at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is:

Superstitious behaviour: Touch wood, horoscopes, black cats, tarot, lucky mascots - why are they so popular? Should we believe in them?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 18 May.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

Resumes on this coming Thursday 30 April at the Counting House after a break with talks on Syndicalism and Chakras.

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


C G Jung Scotland May Meeting



 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group May Meeting (RSVP)

  • Monday, 25th May 2015 at 8pm - 9:30pm
    Location: The Links Hotel and Bar, 4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU

    The Edinburgh Philosophy and Psychology Group will be holding its May meeting at the Links Bar…

    • 6 people attended

Men (not women) extinct in 5m years?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Friday, 24th April 2015 @ 12:51pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 April - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Some fascinating material has come up as I've been researching the topic for April. Amongst other conjectures is that the male Y chromosome is inherently unstable and on a declining path that may see men disappear within 5 million years. What an interesting but alarming prediction!

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 27 April at 8.00 pm.

The topic for April is:

Men - the weaker sex?: Evidence may suggest men are less resilient and more stress prone? Male suicide a clue? An overlooked problem?


As usual, there is a file available, "Weaker Sex", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Dining Area, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded.



NOTICES!

Resumes on Thursday 30 April at the Counting House after a break with talks on Syndicalism and Chakras.

Remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at
www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

The not so super man?

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Tuesday, 21st April 2015 @ 4:45pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 April - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


This month has seen very consistent voting for a change and the lead topic has remained in the forefront from the start. It will be interesting to see how the issue is dealt with in the group with an opportunity to find out more about how men and women see each other's strengths and vulnerabilities.
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 27 April at 8.00 pm.

The topic topping the Poll is:

Men - the weaker sex?: Evidence may suggest men are less resilient and more stress prone? Male suicide a clue? An overlooked problem?


Historically, women have tended to be referred to as the 'weaker sex'. However, in many ways, the evidence may suggest a rather different picture. Certainly, on the whole, men are physically stronger - pure muscle strength. Equally the social perception of men has tended to be that they are more emotionally stable, more resilient, more driven to success, more powerful, more robust, etc. Strength has tended to be defined in many of its dimensions as a male trait with women being seen as weaker, more vulnerable and in need of protection.

The truth, however, may be quite the opposite. From basic genetics we know that women benefit from having two X chromosomes, leading to a 'cancelling out' effect that limits some genetic weaknesses. Men, with an X and Y chromosome, are less resilient in the face of negative genetic influences.

We know too that women tend to live longer than men and there is some evidence that this may be related to adverse effects of testosterone. Castrated men tend to live up to 10 years more. In fact research suggests that male chromosomes and hormones may interact to lead men to take more risks, including unhealthy behaviours such as smoking, excess drinking and increased likelihood of accidents. Men die younger from almost all the main killer health problems. Women also have stronger immune systems.

Psychologically, the strong, silent, tight-lipped male may have more vulnerabilities that are apparent too. Indeed, it has been argued that the very stereotype might be the cause of some of those weaknesses. It is often quoted that women are in the majority of those diagnosed with mental health problems but research casts doubt on whether that actually indicates a greater prevalence amongst females. Instead it may reflect the likelihood of help seeking. Women are more willing to admit when they are having difficulties while men, living up to the image, feel they should simply struggle on and appear to cope. One result is a higher suicide rate amongst late teen and early 20s males peaking for men in their 40s. Men are 3-4 times more likely to kill themselves than women.

When men are diagnosed as suffering from mental health problems, there is evidence that it has a greater adverse impact on their day to day functioning, mental ability and social engagement. Men may show more negative consequences of stress.

But it is not just in health, mental or physical, that there is evidence that men may perform more poorly. In education, for example, teenage boys generally do less well in maths, reading and science than their female counterparts. At higher education levels there is now a major preponderance of women going on to further education at college and university levels. 

Socially, however, men are still often perceived as privileged, socially dominant and aggressors. They are the one group for whom little additional allowance is made. When I complained to my divorce lawyer that some of the processes seemed biased and unfair she retorted "You are male, straight, middle class and white: why would you expect it to be fair?" Maybe we need to recognise that men are not as strong or invulnerable as is sometimes portrayed and see that, in many ways, they may be the weaker sex.

As usual, so much to discuss. 



NOTICES!

Resumes on Thursday 30 April at the Counting House after a break with talks on Syndicalism and Chakras.

Remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at
www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Not the General Election - but time to vote!

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Sunday, 19th April 2015 @ 12:38pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 April - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Just two days left to vote for the April topic with a surprisingly consistent result so far. However, just like the General Election, the outcome is far from a foregone conclusion as the last minute polls often seem to change the balance. 

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 27 April at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is still:

Men - the weaker sex?: Evidence may suggest men are less resilient and more stress prone? Male suicide a clue? An overlooked problem?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To Vote; just click on the link below. 

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 April.


NOTICES!

Resumes on Thursday 30 April at the Counting House after a break with talks on Syndicalism and Chakras.

Remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at
www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Wow! A new tax year...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Monday, 13th April 2015 @ 8:39pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 April - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


A new tax year and everyone seems to be speculating about where our taxes will go in the future. You'd think there was a General Election coming! Actually, if you are looking for some fun on the hustings, you could always attend the joint meeting of the Edinburgh Skeptics Society and Edinburgh University Humanists Society tomorrow (Tuesday 14 April) to discuss the issues. See the details at http://www.meetup.com/EdinburghSkeptics/events/221457462/ .

Meanwhile, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 27 April at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is:

Men - the weaker sex?: Evidence may suggest men are less resilient and more stress prone? Male suicide a clue? An overlooked problem?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 April.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

Resumes on Thursday 30 April at the Counting House after a break with talks on Syndicalism and Chakras.

Remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at
www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


C G Jung Scotland April Meeting


Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Eggcentric eggcitements

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 4th April 2015 @ 1:36pm

Hi All,

Monday 27 April - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


For those celebrating Easter, Happy Easter, and for those who aren't, beware the calories in Cadbury's cream eggs! Reports suggest that children, on average, will eat chocolate eggs and bunnies worth around £56. Seems a bit eggstravagant...

On the other hand I am still having no success finding an alternative venue. Those suggested by members have not proved suitable so far; many because they want to charge room hire.

The key requirements are:

Free room use
Availability of refreshments
Large enough to have 30 people sitting in a circle
Quiet enough so that we can all hear each other and not disturb others
Easy access - central or close to transport
Congenial atmosphere and welcoming management

April will be the last meeting in the Links and, if we cannot find an alternative soon, further meetings may be postponed until after the summer period to give more time for research. 
 
So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 27 April at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is:

Men - the weaker sex?: Evidence may suggest men are less resilient and more stress prone? Male suicide a clue? An overlooked problem?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 20 April.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

Resumes on Thursday 30 April after a break.

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.


C G Jung Scotland April Meeting

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Don't be eclipsed - Let's relate...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 21st March 2015 @ 12:17pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 March - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


So, how many of you saw the eclipse on Friday? It must be one of the most observed and photographed couple of minutes ever. Perhaps there is a parallel though. The danger of knowledge being obscured by ignorance yet the re-emergence of shining rationality as fear and superstition fades. Well, one can hope and maybe the Group is part of that process. 

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 23 March at 8.00 pm.

The topic leading in the Poll is:

Good to know you?: What makes for good relationships? Are the rules the same in romantic, family, friendship and colleague relationships?


As usual, there is a file available, "Relationships", that you can download for some interesting information. Of course, you don't have to read anything, just bring your views and opinions.

I shall be there early from 7.30 pm. Look for the Group signs in the window of the Dining Area, between the Bar entrance (on the left) and the Hotel entrance (on the right). We will be in the middle and accessible from either entrance. Enjoy the sandwiches - usually available from 7.30 pm. The bar also does a great range of drinks, food and snacks.

Ed the Head will be there too, waiting for you. Do try to be there in good time so we can get the seating sorted in case it is crowded.



NOTICES!  

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 
C G Jung (Scotland) 

 
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Remember me and you, I do...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Wednesday, 18th March 2015 @ 9:11pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 March - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Interesting that the voting often changes at the last minute and March is no exception. A flurry of input and the topic preferences bounced back and forth before finally settling.

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 23 March at 8.00 pm.

The topic leading in the Poll was:

Good to know you?: What makes for good relationships? Are the rules the same in romantic, family, friendship and colleague relationships?


Relationships are at the very heart of what makes us human. At the heart of some recent news has been the potentially dire effects of loneliness, particularly in older adults cut off by bereavement and the scattering of family. Lack of social contact is one of the danger signs for severe depression and poor physical health.

But relationships can take all forms. Initially our childhood relationships will be with parents and family, later we socialise at school and build friendships and, sometimes, enemies. Our ability to integrate socially determines much of our success in coping with life and, especially for the teenager, the power of peer relationships and the need to 'fit in' become dominant.

The skills we learn will help us move into the wider world of employment and work colleagues. It is often said that success is not so much about what you know but who you know. While that may not be entirely true, it is recognised that, in selection interviews, panels often choose someone they see as being like themselves. Someone with whom they feel they can have a good working relationship.

Then, of course, there is romance. Romantic relationships play a strong part in helping us develop our identities and self-concept. Love, or at least the feeling of being in love, can make the whole world seem filled with sunshine. Unless it goes wrong and you find yourself cast into the pit of despair. Anyone whose heart has never been broken does not have a heart, just a muscle pumping blood.

So, relationships are core to our personal and social existence and well-being. We have been practising them since birth and the human species has lived with them for millennia. They are the stuff of literature, poems and song. But do we really understand them?

Magazines are full of advice, the books on relationships could fill a library, there are gurus everywhere offering instruction on how to find, maintain and improve your relationships at work, at home or more intimately. You can test your compatibility of style, match horoscopes or try personality inventories. But maybe some of the rules are simpler than that. Honesty, Integrity and Trust have been suggested. Shared interests (opposites may attract but not usually for long). Similar attractiveness? Common goals? Culture, background or even childhood experiences?

Talking of which, are some people unable to have good relationships? Perhaps their early experiences were destructive and they become the outcast, the recluse or even the psychopath.

As usual, so much to discuss.




NOTICES!  

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 
C G Jung (Scotland) - two events
 

 
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>

Beware the ides of March! 3 days to vote...

E-mail sent by Ray Miller, Saturday, 14th March 2015 @ 12:45pm

Hi All,

Monday 23 March - 8.00 pm
The Links Hotel and Bar 
4 Alvanley Terrace, Edinburgh EH9 1DU
(Bruntsfield Links, Whitehouse Loan)
http://www.links-hotel-edinburgh.co.uk/findus.html

Attending?
  


Interesting that the Ides of March falls on Mothers' Day Sunday this year. Still, it makes a change from simply celebrating the demise of Julius Caesar. Et tu Brute! I don't suppose, however, that that is the kind of risk members have had in mind while voting for this month's topic.

So, time to be thinking ahead to our meeting on Monday 23 March at 8.00 pm.

Current topic leading in the Poll is:

What's the risk?: How do we assess risk? Do we tend to worry about the wrong things? Anxieties driven by scary headlines?


But it is not too late for that to change!

To make a Suggestion or Vote; just click on the appropriate link below. 
 

     

You can Vote or change your Vote right up to late on Monday 16 March.


New suggestions welcome!.


Especially welcome are ideas from the newer members who have joined over the last few months. It's one way to make sure the group stays relevant and interesting for you.

NOTICES!

Humanist Society Philosophy Discussion Group - Consciousness

Tuesday, March 17, 2015
8:00 PM to 10:00 PM

The Kenilworth, 152-154 Rose Street, Edinburgh, EH2 3JD, Edinburgh

This month's discussion topic will be consciousness.

Are the mind and brain separate things?

Can computers ever be conscious?

Is the Turing test enough to determine consciousness?

 

Do remember to follow what the Ragged University is up to. They have been hosting some excellent meetings on a whole range of topics. You can find out more at www.ragged-online.com or their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/groups/edinburghraggeduniversity/ . Lots of great audio and video recordings of some of the presentations.
 
C G Jung (Scotland) - two events
 

 
 

Do also remember the Discussion Forum. This is your opportunity to continue the debates between meetings or to air the topics you'd like to discuss that never quite make it in the Poll. You can also see notices for non group events.
 

It's good to see that some of you have added Photos to your profiles but we'd all like to be able to recognise each other at meetings and it would be great to see a few more of you give us the benefit of your portrait. You can add it here:>


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